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Longtime readers here know when it comes to the subject of pantyhose, I am always right. About everything really.
When ActSensuous was born in 2001, it was I who — on our first website — coined the phrases “bare-legs movement” and “bare-legs culture.” (Of course, in 2009 when this blog launched, I changed the bare to “bear” and you all know why.)
Also on our first website, I blamed actress Sarah Jessica Parker in her role as Carrie Bradshaw in the “Sex and the City” TV series (and later, movies) for starting the whole bear-legs movement.
Ever since, she has stood as the bear legs villain of all time.
Besides on our website, I’ve also vilified SJP in this blog.
Then, one of our longtime readers and most prolific commenters, Brian W., in August 2013, made this comment:
You are amazing! (Alright, alright, I added that part. Here’s Brian W.’s real comment:)
I mentioned in one of my previous comments about Candace Bushnell, the newspaper columnist and author of the novel “Sex and the City” that would later be adapted into a TV and movie series. Candace goes bare legged for all seasons after receiving advice from a gay fashion expert telling her that “No woman should wear pantyhose, especially in the winter.” That is why the Carrie Bradshaw character is based on Ms. Bushnell’s personal experiences, and going bare-legged is one of them.
That comment got me thinking that, perhaps, I was wrong (this one time only) and Sarah Jessica Parker wasn’t the real bad guy in the bear-legs movement.
Then, I thought Naaaaaah, SJP has to be the villain, as she always has been the face (OK, the legs, actually) of the very bear-legs culture itself.
Still, in addition to Brian W.’s comment in 2013, I had been noticing more and more pictures of SJP wearing pantyhose in movies, at movie premieres, media appearances, publicity events, and often, even when she’s out and about.
What? How could this be?
After seeing so many pics of SJP in pantyhose, coupled with the facts from Brian W.’s comment about Bushnell, I realized that I really was wrong, and SJP had been wrongly accused by me.
After all, SJP made an appearance during a Chanel event in August 2011 wearing a pair of the high-end clothing, handbags and accessories retailer’s pantyhose, which sold for $250. Seriously, $250. I mean, who does that?
Yes, it was time for me to open my eyes and my mind, and take notice of the former SATC star.
So, a couple of weeks ago, to make up for my having falsely accused her of starting the bear-legs movement, ActSensuous invited SJP to a special function, which she cheerfully accepted.
Thus, in the headline of this post: Credit ‘wear’ Credit is Due — You won’t believe who, the “who” is one Sarah Jessica Parker.
Now, I know what some of you are thinking:
Has Robin lost her mind? Was she paid off? Did I log on to the wrong blog?
Let me assure you, readers … all is well and good.
It’s just that in doing my research for this post, I found way more pictures of SJP wearing pantyhose than many other celebs who’ve been praised several times in this blog by me, and also by some of you in your comments.
In fact, the more I investigated, the further I became convinced that SJP is not the villain I’d been making her out to be since 2001.
And in graciously accepting the ActSensuous invitation to be honored in this blog, SJP didn’t disappoint, always arriving in style at the Space Coast Imperial Palace .
And during the three-day celebration, SJP always showed up in fabulous outfits, complemented by some awesome high heels, and showing off a few different styles of pantyhose.
As amazing as SJP looks in pantyhose, it’s a mystery to me why she ever would want to be seen bear-legged again.
Seeing SJP in beautiful outfits and pantyhose during the 3-day award ceremony, only reinforced in my mind what I had been seeing the past few years.
One of the movies in which she starred, “I Don’t Know How She Does It” (2011), was not only a cute story, but it featured SJP as a corporate executive who has to learn how to juggle her rise to the top at a financial management company along with her family responsibilities.
As the movie was set in Boston during the winter months, and mostly, because SJP played a corporate exec, it was fitting that she always wore skirts or skirt suits, heels and pantyhose. And not just pantyhose, but often sheer nude pantyhose.
This made the movie and SJP’s character more realistic, and that isn’t always the case in motion pictures of this kind.
By the way, as a side note, Olivia Munn played a junior associate at the firm, and she dressed in proper business attire, as well. And while it’s not that unusual to see Olivia Munn in pantyhose (at publicity events and often just out and about these days), it was absolutely wonderful to see her (finally) wearing sheer nude pantyhose.
Here’s the thing (and I’ve said this … what, about a thousand times regarding different celebs?): When Olivia goes back and watches “I Don’t Know How She Does It,” and sees herself looking as amazing as she did in sheer nude pantyhose, why wouldn’t she want to dress this way all the time? Or, at least, more often.
Am I right, people? Are you hearing me out there? Look at those gorgeous gams on Olivia Munn.
Back to the ActSensuous award ceremony: Don’t think for a minute that the three days were all just fun and games.
After all, SJP had always been the signature client of the Grizzly, yet, here she was receiving the ActSensuous Credit “wear” Credit is Due award.
You remember the Grizzly. He held his own celebration a while back, handing out the inaugural Grizzly Award to that total “fashion” witch, Stacy London, of “What Not to Wear.” Now London definitely is the most deserving recipient of the Grizzly Award.
You’re with me on this, right readers?
Still, it was SJP who put the Grizzly on the map, and he wasn’t about to let her go so easily.
It appears our security was not up to snuff because the Grizzly crashed the event, trying to talk SJP into staying in his camp.
He greeted her on the red carpet with a bottle of what looked to be some very fine Champagne.
I almost felt sorry for the Grizzly, as he was rebuked by SJP on the red carpet, surrounded by a horde of paparazzi and adoring onlookers.
But the Grizzly is not discouraged so easily.
He wasn’t about to let his most famous and best client go, without trying every trick in the book to woo her back.
And, somehow, the Grizzly was able to sneak backstage the next day, where he tried to entice SJP with flowers and a box of Godiva chocolates.
Fittingly for the occasion, he even wore a tuxedo.
We’ve gotta give the Grizzly props for his creativity and style in going all-out in his efforts to win back his best client.
He certainly won some points with SJP for that backstage maneuver, yet, she once again found a way to resist the Grizzly’s advances.
Apparently, she was now enjoying her new-found attention and appreciation for being a more pantyhose-friendly celebrity.
Several days after the ActSensuous award ceremony, while SJP was back home relaxing, the Grizzly did the unthinkable:
He showed up at the star’s estate home.
SJP had shunned all the Grizzly’s attempts to woo her back.
It had been a long partnership between her and the bear, and it couldn’t have been easy for her to keep turning him down.
Nevertheless, SJP was convicted about wearing pantyhose and finally putting the distinction of being the Grizzly’s signature client behind her.
So, taking a page from the 1989 John Cusack movie, “Say Anything,” the Grizzly parked himself on SJP’s and Matthew Broderick’s property, and facing her bedroom window, played the song “Baby Come Back” from the band, Player in 1977.
You know the lyrics: “Baby, come back. You can blame it all on me. I was wrong and I just can’t live without you.”
Take heart, Grizzly, you might have lost SJP, but there are plenty of other suspects you could go after.
One such candidate is Candace Bushnell.
This former columnist for The New York Observer, and current novelist and television producer who authored SATC, is more to blame for the bear-legs movement than SJP ever was.
As reader and frequent commenter, Brian W. stated, Bushnell, 57, was too easily persuaded to ditch pantyhose by a gay fashion designer.
I wear bare legs most of the year,” Bushnell said during an interview with The Mirror, an online tabloid. “It’s kind of a fashion thing. A New York designer decreed that women should never wear pantyhose, not even in winter. They’re just not sexy. I just shave my legs.
She “wears” bare legs? More like she wears a bear’s legs. “It’s kind of a fashion thing?” And pantyhose are “just not sexy?” OK, does Bushnell sound like a prolific novelist and TV producer to you? I think she’s easily influenced. She’s certainly confused.
At least 90 percent of the male population and millions of females throughout the world (such as me) think pantyhose are the sexiest thing a woman could ever wear.
Oh, and shaving one’s legs ain’t exactly some closely-guarded secret known only to celebrities, Bushnell. And, if you think just shaving will make your legs look sexy, uh, yeah … that’s not going to happen for you.
It’s too bad Bushnell was so easily brainwashed against wearing pantyhose.
Still, she might never have been much of a pantyhose wearer in the first place. In a Google search, I could find only two pictures of her in pantyhose. In the photo at left, Bushnell actually showed up dressed like this to a television station’s event. Real professional, Bushnell.
How is an accomplished author and a television producer so easily influenced about how to dress by a gay fashion designer?
But that is exactly what happened. Once, when asked during an online interview about the best fashion advice she ever received, Bushnell said:
“Isaac Mizrahi once told me that a lady never, ever wears pantyhose. Even if it’s snowing and 20 degrees outside.”
Wait, THAT was the best fashion advice Bushnell ever received? And it made sense to her?
Now I say instead of being the next client for the Grizzly, I think she should be eaten by the Grizzly.
Yes, it was Bushnell who wrote the SATC TV series, which aired from 1998 to 2004, featuring high-society women in New York City who wear the fashions of the day, including fabulous heels, but sans the pantyhose. That show spearheaded the launch of the bear-legs movement.
So, really, Candace Bushnell — not Sarah Jessica Parker — is the culprit who instigated the bear-legs culture.
Yet, years later (2010), Bushnell herself wore sheer pantyhose for an interview with an online fashion magazine.
Perhaps Bushnell is finally growing up?
Maybe she’s still confused.
Another suspect the Grizzly ought to go after is Patricia Field, the costume designer for SATC, who won a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Costumes for a Series (Sex and the City 2002).
Ironically, Field, 74, (also gay) hosted and designed the outfits for a fashion event in 2012 in New York City, and it featured many women wearing pantyhose.
Similarly, Field designed the costumes for the TV series, “Ugly Betty” (2006-2010) and the movie, “The Devil Wears Prada” (2006), both of which featured its stars wearing pantyhose.
So, while Field obviously has something personal against pantyhose, she at least hasn’t shut them out of the wardrobes of all movies and events.
In looking at images of Field online, I didn’t see a single picture of her wearing pantyhose herself (thank God for that, actually).
However, I did see a picture of Lucy Liu attending Field’s 2009 birthday party, in which (of course, Field was bear-legged), yet, even Lucy Liu wore pantyhose.
That’s significant because Lucy Liu hardly ever wears pantyhose during public appearances.
So, indeed, the Grizzly has a couple of candidates for new clients, but SJP no longer should be considered one of them.
And, it’s appearing more and more obvious that the next Grizzly Award should go to Bushnell or Field, or both.
Now, is SJP still going to disappoint us by showing up bear-legged on talk shows, at movie premieres, public appearances and even while she’s just out and about?
Yeah, more than likely. OK, definitely.
Then again, there isn’t a single celebrity, even the ones who can be considered devoted pantyhose wearers, who don’t do that at one time or another.
In any case, Sarah Jessica Parker wears pantyhose of her own volition, and frequently enough that she no longer should be considered the ambassador of the bear-legs culture. Certainly, she’s not the cause of it.
And while this saddens the Grizzly, the bottom line is I was the one who blamed SJP for the bear-legs movement, I was wrong, and so I’ve corrected the mistake.
Welcome to the good side, SJP.
Note: My thanks to professional graphic artist David Joseph (whose wife, Sheri, is an ActSensuous customer) for his awesome artwork for this blog post. I provided the ideas and the raw pictures, and David expertly turned my vision into reality.
David also designed the current ActSensuous website and the beautiful packaging for our Act IV pantyhose.
Note II: My thanks, also, to Mark Johnson, a professional graphic artist and a corporate attorney (and an ActSensuous fan) for the very first picture of the Grizzly in the John Cusack pose from the 1989 movie, “Say Anything.”
I first delivered (July 2014) the Cusack photo and a grizzly bear picture to Mark, along with my vision for this post. It took some doing, but the resulting artwork (above) was the very key to my writing this post.
Thank you, Mark, wherever you are now.
Below, you’ll find more pictures of Sarah Jessica Parker wearing pantyhose throughout the past few decades, and at various venues. Enjoy!
Since the “bear”-legs culture first reared its ugly head during the mid-to-late 1990s, women the world over have been trying to permanently run pantyhose out of town.
(If you’re new here and wonder about my use of the word, “bear” instead of bare, see my explanation in the About Me section.)
But during all this time, the fashion accessory — once the staple of female professionalism, class, glamour, femininity and just plain good taste — has showed a remarkable resilience that would belie its otherwise delicate nature.
Launch an Internet search for pantyhose and you can see that not only are nylons still relevant today, but, in fact, they appear to be growing more and more popular every day. There must be thousands of websites devoted to women wearing pantyhose, and the men who love them.
And if you want to see celebrities from every corner of the planet wearing pantyhose, there are dozens of websites featuring millions of pictures devoted to that subject. In fact, it is more difficult to find a celebrity today who isn’t wearing pantyhose in at least a few pictures. Seeing this, one might actually think there never was a bear-legs movement.
In this blog, my column, Credit “Wear” Credit is Due has glorified many celebs who could be considered devoted pantyhose wearers. But here’s the thing: Each one I’ve praised has let me down one time or another, going bear-legged during appearances that I would have thought were the perfect venues for wearing pantyhose.
Of course, there are some celebs, such as Sofia Vergara, Nicole Kidman, Anne Hathaway, and Zooey Deschanel, who are consistent pantyhose wearers; and some who are frequent wearers even just out-and-about (Paris Hilton comes to mind). Nevertheless, the vast majority of celebs, including the aforementioned, more often than not appear bear-legged on late night talk shows and awards ceremonies.
Similarly, there are many veteran singers/dancers who almost always wear pantyhose on stage (Madonna, Cher, Beyonce’, Jennifer Lopez), just as there are many young, rising stars (Katy Perry, Rihanna, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande) whom we’ve come to expect to see in pantyhose during such events.
And among that group, I’ve observed that Ariana Grande is the most dedicated pantyhose-wearer. And, as she is only 20 years old, I could not be more impressed with her. And grateful to her.
And I love her for being a shining example for her legion of young fans in always dressing beautifully, including wearing sheer suntan pantyhose.
From this, we can conclude that these performers are professional (and maybe classy) enough to wear pantyhose on stage, realizing their legs look better under the lights.
So how in the world do some of these superstars show up to receive awards, such as during Sunday night’s American Music Awards (AMA) presentation, wearing gorgeous gowns and stilettos, yet, with bear legs?
I don’t get it. These stars mostly are consistent pantyhose-wearers when performing concerts and often when making publicity appearances (Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Rihanna), then, on what should be the most special night of their careers — a night where they are recognized for their achievments among their peers and before a national television audience — they almost to a woman attend bear-legged.
Here’s what I don’t understand: They seem to recognize that this special night calls for the most expensive designer dresses, fabulous jewelry and amazing shoes. But pantyhose? Nah!
I present this as the first snag in the comeback of pantyhose because for all the steps forward we take when celebs wear during performances, it’s like a huge step backward when all of them gather on one stage at one time for such a significant event, and practically no one wears.
Incidentally, I didn’t watch the AMAs. Instead, I was watching Sunday Night Football and recording The Good Wife. So on commercials, I’d check in on the AMAs. I was happy for Taylor Swift, winning awards for Artist of the Year, Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist, Favorite Country Female Artist, and Favorite Country Album.
Taylor is one of the young stars who more often than not wears sheer nude pantyhose on stage, and frequently wears when she’s out-and-about.
I couldn’t wait to see what she’d wear during the AMAs. Then, I saw. Her dress wasn’t all that fancy, but it was nice. And it was super short. And I liked her high heel dress sandals.
But how could she not wear pantyhose with this outfit, for this event?
Similarly, Rihanna is extremely likely to wear pantyhose on stage with all kinds of outfits from elegant to exotic to what the what?
And, she’s frequently seen wearing pantyhose during public appearances.
Like Taylor, I fully expected to see Rihanna (Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist award) standing out from the herd (all disrespect fully intended) during the AMAs. Nope!
Then, there was my new fave: Sweet, innocent, adorable little Ariana Grande, who wore the most beautiful and elegant gown of any of them.
It was floor length, but when she climbed the steps up to the stage to accept the New Artist of the Year award, I noticed she indeed was wearing her trademark sheer suntan pantyhose.
I am so happy that Ariana won New Artist of the Year.
I also happened to check in on the AMAs in time to see Lady Gaga’s performance of “Do what you want with my body,” and that’s about all I want to say on that subject. Other than that I think that song and performance was just another example of the all-too-many just like it that glamourize a lack of values in society today.
The only reason I bring up the performance at all is because Lady Gaga did wear her signature nude fishnet pantyhose with her outfit. Since I’m complaining that almost no one did Sunday night, I have to point out that Lady Gaga did. Nuff said about her though.
What I loved was the performance I happened to catch by Jennifer Lopez. Now, J Lo knows how to put on a show, belting out some great vocals and high-energy salsa dance moves in three different outfits (all accessorized with suntan fishnet pantyhose).
In addition to celebs opting for bear legs during awards shows and other venues, those dreaded so-called fashion experts still are waging war on pantyhose. Granted, we don’t hear as much from them today as we did during the late 90s to most of the decade of 2000. But they’re still out there.
Of course, I never read fashion magazines or websites, and I couldn’t care less what their so-called experts think, but when I noticed last month a picture of one of my favorite actresses wearing a cute outfit, I clicked on it, only to be taken to an online fashion site, which I found was actually putting her down.
Here’s the picture of Taiwanese actress Shu Qi.
She is an extremely popular model and actress throughout China. Her first English speaking role came in the movie, The Transporter, in which she co-starred (very delightfully) with Jason Statham.
Shu is adorable and extremely professional and classy, almost always appearing in pantyhose on stage and during publicity appearances.
But the online website RCFA (Red Carpet Fashion Awards) last month slammed Shu for wearing nude tights with her outfit during an appearance at a Jimmy Choo accessories store opening ceremony in Hong Kong.
The author of RCFA, Catherine Kallon, wrote:
“The actress’ Jimmy Choo accessories included a crystal-accented ‘Charlize’ clutch and ‘Anouk’ pointy pumps as expected; however, the same can’t be said for her dress.
“On this occasion, the usually conservative star wore a Calla Spring 2013 printed frock with a gauze sheer insert at the waist.
“It’s a cute, fun, flirty look, but the dress doesn’t sit as well as it does on the model … I could’ve overlooked most of the flaws to give Shu a pass for stepping outside the box, but why oh why is she wearing nude tights? (I added the bold to highlight my point.)
“And what’s up with the Paris Hilton pose?”
OK, first, Kallon thinks the outfit looks better on the model in the pic left of Shu Qi? Uh … I don’t think so. Second, I’d like to kick Kallon’s you know what. OK, OK, I’m not really like that, but …
I think Shu looks absolutely adorable in this outfit, and even though I’m not a fan of shiny tights (as my love is sheer nude pantyhose), I think Shu absolutely rocks in them.
And, another thing: While Shu Qi typically does dress professionally, elegantly and beautifully, I wouldn’t necessarily call it conservatively, as Kallon does. Certainly, I love that Shu has the class and good taste to most-often wear sheer pantyhose, but if Kallon and her readers think the tights she wore at Jimmy Choo’s are an eyesore, they haven’t seen anything. Shu has been known to wear some pretty exotic-looking pantyhose and tights during publicity events, as you’ll see later in this post.
Besides, Kallon’s stupid remarks, her post generated 23 comments, one of which was:
The dress is too young, cutesy and girly for her and sits awkwardly on her to begin with, a very wrong choice for her, the nude tights are an eyesore and bring the look down completely.
OK, I really do want to kick Nat39’s a$$. Oh, and Nat, know what a run-on sentence is? You’ve got about three sentences all rolled into one there. Hey, good job with that.
Worse, it seemed (I’m not sure because I stopped reading, as my blood pressure was starting to soar) that all 23 comments were in support of Kallon’s opinion.
Well, I can live with an idiot “fashion expert” dissing a lovely celebrity once, but recently, I stumbled across another post by Kallon (written last year), this time putting down Megan Fox. Seriously, Megan Fox.
Kallon posted this pic of a model wearing an outfit she liked, and contrasted it with the same look on Megan Fox, disapproving because Megan had the class to wear it with pantyhose.
Now, you decide. Who looks better, the model or Megan?
Here’s what Kallon wrote:
“Getting up for the 5am Golden Globe Awards nominations announcement this morning would’ve been easy for Megan Fox, considering she’s probably used to being up at that ungodly hour with her newborn.
“… Megan also opted for a lady-like look. Clearly the new mum is putting her sassy days behind her.
“She wore a beautiful floral Giambattista Valli Resort 2013 dress with an ivory top and moss-green skirt which she styled with nude platform Louboutins.
“This is a great look for Megan. I couldn’t be more envious of her hair, but those nude fishnet tights are jarring.” (I added the bold to highlight my point.)
What’s next, Kallon? You going to criticize your countrywoman, Duchess of Cambridge Kate Middleton, for wearing sheer nude pantyhose? Unbelievable.
Now, if you can’t fathom how a site like RCFA could be so demeaning to superstar celebrities for wearing pantyhose, here’s another one for you:
The Fashionable Teacher Grading Red Carpet Fashions Everywhere. Are you an A+ or a Fashion Fail.
This site is run by mochababe73.
In this case, The Fashionable Teacher didn’t like an outfit Jennifer Hudson wore to a movie premiere in April of this year. Here’s the picture.
Here’s what mochababe73 wrote:
“Jennifer Hudson really stood out from the crowd.
“And, not in a good way. This Emmanuel Ungaro dress was really, really busy. The animal print and polka dots have no business being in the same dress, and it’s wrong on so many levels. The two prints together are just and assault to the eyes.
On top of that, the white cuffs, gold details, and visible bra just add to the carnage.
“Love the Saint Laurent shoes, but what’s with the pantyhose?”
Well, for starters, they represent professionalism and class, mochababe73. And, like makeup, pantyhose greatly beautify the look of a woman’s legs, mochababe73.
Great, another “fashion expert” who knocks a celebrity for having the good sense and class to wear pantyhose with her outfit.
I decided to look for other pics of Jennifer Hudson wearing pantyhose. Unfortunately, I found only two. Of course I don’t think that the negative comments of mochababe73 on her website influenced Jennifer to not wear pantyhose.
I do think it’s a shame that those who don’t have professionalism or class, use their forum as “fashion experts” to criticize celebs who do.
I guess the pic of Jennifer (at right) in the red dress with “bear” legs represents the look that mochababe73 finds more appropriate?
Here’s the author’s profile:
Houston, TX baby!
I am a wife and mother. I am a teacher. And, I am one wife, mother, and teacher who devours fashion. My fashion magazine collection is insane.
Hey, mochababe73, you’re a teacher? Shouldn’t you end that last part of your tagline with a question mark, not a period? You have: Are you an A+ or a Fashion Fail. It should read: Are you an A+ or a Fashion Fail?
More ‘expert’ advice
Finally, it still amazes me that anyone really listens to these so-called fashion experts. I am always amused when I see an online post from a woman asking for advice about what she should or shouldn’t wear to a function.
A frequent question is “Can I wear pantyhose with open-toe dress shoes?” And all the “experts” jump on that one like vultures on road pizza. Naturally, they all attempt to talk women out of committing such a fashion no-no, and I always love how NO ONE ever follows their advice.
It remains one of the dumbest things these “fashion experts” wax on about.
Fortunately, no one’s listening.
Look at this picture of beautiful Chinese actress Cecilia Cheung. What could possibly be wrong with her wearing sheer pantyhose with these peep-toe heels? She has perfect toes that look all the more gorgeous under those deliciously sheer nylons.
Perhaps, there will always be a few snags that slightly delay the return of pantyhose to favor.
Still, it is so wonderful that we see cases every day in which celebrities and everyday women throughout the world chose the class, elegance and femininity that comes with wearing pantyhose.
Now, here are some of my favorite pics of Shu Qi wearing a wide variety of pantyhose and tights styles:
If the “bear” legs movement won the decade of the new millennium, pantyhose certainly got their legs back in 2011.
(NOTE: I’m putting quotes around “bear” just once and then running with it as-is. Seasoned readers get my play on words, which have their origin in one of my earlier posts: “Why Bears Don’t Wear Pantyhose.”)
No, I’m not proclaiming that everything’s back to normal; far from it. But I think greater strides were made in 2011 than at any time from 2000 on.
I do think 2011 gave us much for which to be thankful, and optimism for years to come. While things looked pretty bleak from 2000 through 2010, I am thrilled by the number of new and seasoned celebrities we saw wearing pantyhose in 2011.
In movies, on TV shows, in TV commercials, on singers/performers taking the stage, on game shows, across fashion runways, in magazines, and practically everywhere we looked in the community, we saw more pantyhose in 2011 than I think we saw in the previous 10 years. And if you want to see beautiful women in pantyhose, just do a google search, and you’ll find that pantyhose are indeed alive and well.
Pantyhose took us by storm in the late-1960s, absolutely ruled in the ‘70s and ‘80s, and enjoyed a good run through most of the ‘90s before “Sex and the City” reared its ugly head in 1998.
And, in the ’70s, no one did more for pantyhose than actress Catherine Bach in her role as Daisy Duke on the TV show, “The Dukes of Hazzard.” Bach took sheer pantyhose to icon status, wearing them with her signature short-shorts and heels on the show.
It’s difficult to imagine how and why so many women in the world would try so hard to distance themselves from the look made famous by Bach.
Looking at this picture of Catherine Bach, I can’t see how anyone could believe that pantyhose are old-fashioned and irrelevant in society today. A look of sheer beauty and the truest sense of femininity is never irrelevant, and it never goes out of style.
I honestly didn’t believe the bear legs culture would catch on, and I never dreamed it would flourish, almost to the demise of pantyhose.
It has taken a great deal longer than I imagined, but women have begun coming to their senses again. That was clear in 2010, and never more evident than during 2011.
Still, through the darkest times of the 2000 decade, I was so pleased and encouraged by the vast number of men throughout the world voicing their displeasure over the bear legs movement. There are thousands of pantyhose forums, websites and blogs about the love and devotion that (at least) men feel for pantyhose.
I still can’t believe that so many women don’t seem to care that seemingly 99 percent of the male population loves them in pantyhose. The fact that women almost universally reject the beauty, femininity, class, elegance, and sensual characteristics inherent in pantyhose remains a complete mystery to me.
I should acknowledge that, along the way, there have been many women who never bought into the bear legs culture. Occasionally, I read on an online forum about a woman or two who, like me, just don’t get the hostility other women have toward pantyhose. It is so heartwarming and encouraging to read the words of some women who say they love pantyhose, and the attention and appreciation they get from wearing pantyhose for men who love it so much. We can’t know about these everyday women on a large scale, so unfortunately, I cannot give them the praise they deserve. Still, we know they’re out there, so if you’re reading, thank you for remaining professional at the office, classy about town and always feminine in all situations.
Similarly, I’ve been delighted and encouraged by all the support from readers of The ActSensuous Blog this year. I greatly appreciate all your comments, compliments and well wishes. So, in addition to my usual ranting and raving about celebs and the state of the pantyhose industry, in this year-in-review post, I want to share with you some things you might find interesting – the stuff you guys contribute.
You guys write some well-conceived and thought-provoking comments. You have a real understanding of what’s going on in the world of pantyhose. You know the celebs who are devoted wearers, and you know the ones who aren’t. In many of your comments, you attach links to pictures, videos and online articles about pantyhose.
I love it when you write about a colleague at work who routinely wears, or doesn’t. I love when you write about your most memorable pantyhose experiences and the affects they had on you.
And, of course, I appreciate all the nice things you write about my different posts. I couldn’t do this if I didn’t think you cared and appreciated it. So thank you for all your support.
In case you ever wondered, most of those who comment on my blog are not ActSensuous customers. Sometimes, it’s a bit embarrassing when a customer writes a comment and closes with how much he loves our products and our customer service. I’m not asking for that, but it’s always nice to read the positive feedback, and I am sure it’s good for business. So, to those customers/readers, I’ll say this: That’s not what the blog is about, you don’t have to endorse us in your comments, but I know it comes from the heart, and I do appreciate very much your good intentions.
One reader complimented me a long time ago for keeping the blog separate from the business. I never expected anyone to notice or care about that, but I always appreciated that this guy got it and pointed it out. In fact, of the 48 (before this one) posts I’ve written since May 2009, only one was blatantly about ActSensuous – the one on April 25, 2011, called “Return of Pantyhose TV ads a Good Sign.” In it, I shared my vision (OK, fantasy) of having a celebrity become the official spokesmodel for ActSensuous. I wrote about the celebs I’d choose if I could. That post was pretty popular and got some good comments, but I really thought it would get more response from you, telling me which celeb you thought would be perfect to represent ActSensuous.
And that leads me to this:
I thought polls would be a good way to be heard for those who don’t feel comfortable leaving a comment on a blog post. What could be more anonymous than that? Even I don’t know who clicks an answer on a poll on my blog. Yet, the response numbers seem low to me.
To those who have voted on my various polls, I thank you. Your answers to the poll questions – your voice – give me an insight as to what you think about the state of pantyhose in society today. To demonstrate that point, I’ll share with you the results of some of those polls, starting with:
- “Which celebrity would be perfect to represent ActSensuous?”
Of the 50 votes this poll generated, Anne Hathaway garnered 14 (30%). To put that in perspective, the next highest vote-getter was Milla Jovovich with 9 (20%).
They beat out the likes of Sandra Bullock, Bai Ling, Nicole Kidman, and four write-in names: Zhang Ziyi, Gong Li, Christie Brinkley and Morena Baccarin.
I was not surprised you chose Anne Hathaway. I love that, even though she is so young, she gets it. While probably every celeb has her days when she just isn’t going to wear for any occasion, Anne is pretty consistent. She has the maturity, the class and sense of femininity to wear for all the right reasons and at the right venues. I believe Anne has a bright future as a Hollywood star, and I’d be proud to have her represent ActSensuous.
Of course I love Milla Jovovich. She is beautiful, extremely professional, ultra classy and just plain cool. She is a great actress, and if the truth were known, I’d choose her if I could.
Of the others, I love Bai Ling, Nicole Kidman, Zhang Ziyi and Gong Li, and I would be thrilled if any of them would even consider being the face (legs) of a pantyhose campaign, but that seems rather remote to me.
Now, Christie Brinkley as the official spokesmodel for ActSensuous ….. that seems pretty realistic and very appealing to me. I’ve always liked Christie. She’s always been extremely professional, very classy and ultra feminine.
I would have thought the same thing about Morena Baccarin, but even though she can always be counted on to wear sheer pantyhose with her outfits in TV series (“The Visitors” and “Homeland”), I’ve never seen her wear during visits on late night talk shows. I find that so frustrating because it kills my image of her. I want to believe she is what I see in her TV roles, but have to face the reality that when she’s on her own time, she chooses not to wear. That amazes me because she looks 100 times better in pantyhose. Then again, isn’t that true of all of them?
- “Which Celebrity do you most want to see in pantyhose?”
This poll generated 91 votes, of which Sandra Bullock took 34 (37%).
She overwhelmed the likes of Jessica Alba with 22 votes (24%), Kate Beckinsale, Nicole Kidman, Bai Ling, and seven write-in answers, including Fran Drescher, Michelle Yeoh, Lucy Liu, Bette Middler, and Jenna Fisher.
Good for Sandra Bullock to win that poll.
It goes to show the popularity of the veteran action, dramatic and comedic actress among the ranks of pantyhose lovers.
Why not? Sandra always has had the professionalism and class to wear pantyhose for the right occasions.
I would have liked to see Michelle Yeoh, Bai Ling and Lucy Liu score higher, but they do in the next poll.
- “Which Asian actress do you most want to see wearing pantyhose?”
Out of 34 total votes (only 34 – what’s wrong with you people?), Lucy Liu won with 13 votes (38%).
Very impressive, as she beat out whom I think is the world’s most gorgeous woman, Zhang Ziyi, who came in second with 8 votes (24%).
This poll was won because of the popularity/familiarity of Lucy Liu. I mean who doesn’t love her?
Ironically, from what I’ve observed, Ziyi is a much more prolific wearer of pantyhose than Lucy will ever be.
In fact, as much as I adore Lucy Liu, she breaks my heart by doing the bear legs thing much more often than wearing pantyhose.
Further, it seems the rare occasion on which we see Lucy Liu in pantyhose, she’s wearing the thick, black ones. Yet, to behold her in sheer nude pantyhose is a breathtakingly beautiful sight. At least the black pantyhose she’s wearing in this photo are fairly sheer.
Zhang Ziyi (“Memoirs of a Geisha,” “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon,” Rush Hour 2”) is only just becoming known to Western audiences, and since she lives in China, she’s not quite the household name Lucy Liu is.
But Ziyi is the Asian actress I most want to see in pantyhose. To me, she is total perfection.
Other vote-getters in this poll were Tia Carrere, Michelle Yeoh, Devon Aoki, Bai Ling, Gong Li, Maggie Q, Karen Mok and Brenda Song.
Besides Zhang Ziyi, I next most want to see Michelle Yeoh in pantyhose. I still love her more than any other Asian actress, and she is simply awesome in pantyhose, although, sadly, that’s a rare sight these days.
It’s so frustrating that Maggie Q doesn’t wear pantyhose on her hit show, “Nikita,” (or any other thing I’ve ever seen her in.) There was a time (early 1990s) when Tia Carrere (“Wayne’s World,” “High School High,” “True Lies”) was the most beautiful thing that pantyhose ever happened to, but those days appear to be long gone. I would guess most of you have no clue as to who Karen Mok is (“Black Mask” and “So Close”), but someday I’ll do a whole post about her.
Young model/actress Devon Aoki (“Debs” is my favorite movie of hers) is a frequent pantyhose wearer and looks amazing in them. I haven’t seen enough of Brenda Song, but it’s neat that someone voted for her.
I love Gong Li, Maggie Cheung and Karen Mok, and they all look fabulous in pantyhose, but to me, there is just something truly remarkable about seeing Bai Ling in pantyhose. Maybe that’s because it’s so unexpected.
Bai Ling is an enigma.
She is extremely intelligent and has great talent. She is incredibly beautiful. But she fits in perfectly within the Hollyweird culture. I don’t really get her, but I can’t help but love her.
She is known for wearing the skimpiest and strangest outfits, and looking awesome in them.
But when she wears pantyhose, it is so heartwarming to me. She kills me in a good way.
- “Pantyhose – To Wear or Not to Wear (ladies only please)”
This was not the poll that saw the widest margin of victory, but the winning answer got 19 of the 24 votes (79%). The winner, I’m happy to say, is this answer:
“I choose to because I believe in and wholeheartedly support the concepts of beauty, glamour, class and sexiness inherent in pantyhose.” Coming in second was the answer: “I am not on one side or the other and would wear or not wear pantyhose based on the appropriateness of the situation/environment.” That answer got 3 votes (13%).
I wrote (ladies only please) at the end of the poll question because I knew what answer men would give, and I really wanted to see what women would say. I always wondered if the votes were indeed by women only. I don’t know, but there were 2 votes (8%) for the answer: “I choose not to on my own personal volition because I think pantyhose are uncomfortable, impractical and/or unnecessary.” We know women cast that vote.
But here’s the real news: Not a single vote came in for the answers: “I choose not to because I believe in and completely support the cause for the bare legs movement … period;” or for: “I choose not to because the excuse now exists thanks to the bare legs movement.”
Hey, I’ll take our minor victories anywhere I can get them.
- Today’s “Bear Legs culture:”
This is the poll, attached to the post “Why Bears don’t wear Pantyhose,” that launched my whole “bear” legs terminology. The answer that won this poll was: “Can’t die a horrible death soon enough.” Still, it got only 60 votes out of 110 (55%). Taking second place with 26 votes (24%) was the answer: “Is to punish men (for being men).” Sorry about that, guys.
OK, are you wondering what poll got the most activity and won by the very widest margin? This won’t come as a surprise to most of you. It was attached to my first (and arguably best) post of 2011 (Jan. 9), titled “Why Not Pantyhose and Open-Toe High Heels?” This post still gets comments and generates discussions, remaining one of the most popular on this blog.
- “Pantyhose with open-toe high heels?”
This poll generated 160 votes – by far, the most activity of all the other polls. The winner was the answer: “Absolutely! Yes, please!” You gave that answer 151 votes (94%). I’m so proud. Getting only 7 votes (4%) was the answer: “No way! No How! Never!” And just 2 voters (1%) selected the answer: “Who cares?”
More than any of my other posts, “Why Not Pantyhose with Open-Toe High Heels?” struck a huge chord with you. This was the post in which I first bashed all the so-called “fashion experts” for making up hard and fast rules that dictate what they say is acceptable or not for you to wear. That anyone listens to these people is unfathomable to me.
I had no idea when I wrote it that this post would generate so many comments and poll votes. I am so glad you overwhelmingly support the wearing of pantyhose with dress sandals.
Even more, I love it when celebs (by far the greatest influencers of fashion) completely disregard the advice of the “experts” and always wear pantyhose with open-toe heels.
Looking at the picture of Paula Abdul, I can’t imagine how there could be even a few people out there who still think this look is wrong.
As much as I love my self-appointed mission of being the voice of hope and reason for the return of pantyhose to favor in all aspects of society, I couldn’t write this blog without your participation. I try to make my posts compelling and entertaining, hoping to generate comments and discussion among you. And I throw in polls to give you another avenue to express your views about pantyhose.
Sometimes, when more time than usual goes by between posts, I’m struggling to stay motivated or to come up with something I think you’ll care about. The point is I do this for you. I hope you will continue to contribute, and I hope more of you will get involved.
Finally, I could say this (and probably will) until I turn blue, but we owe our thanks to so many wonderful celebrities all over the world who turned out in droves wearing pantyhose this year. There’s not enough space to acknowledge all of them, but let me recognize a few we couldn’t have done without this year.
Ann Curry: She is beautiful, classy and professional. We owe her so much gratitude for keeping the bar high in TV journalism.
Carly Foulkes, the beloved T-Mobile Girl: Now we know it wasn’t a fluke. I don’t know how many commercials she’s made now, but she’s always in one of those famous pink dresses, with awesome pumps and sheer nude pantyhose. She’s a young hottie who potentially can influence an entire generation to dress more femininely.
Julianna Margulies: She has always been professional and classy, and now, as the star of “The Good Wife,” she can do no wrong.
She’s a great actor on arguably the best show on TV, and so, in her we have a highly visible celeb who wouldn’t be caught dead not wearing pantyhose.
Hopefully, Julianna will influence those career women who don’t think there’s anything wrong with showing up for work with bear legs.
What I like most about Julianna is that not only does she always wear pantyhose on the job, but also out in public and on late night talk shows. She’s truly a devoted wearer.
Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna, Selena Gomez and other young professional entertainers are doing the right thing.
Perry and Gaga, and Paula Abdul are practically pantyhose ambassadors because they wear not only on stage, but also out in the public eye.
These women are priceless contributors to our cause.
Kate Middleton: Obviously, much has been made of her commitment to wearing pantyhose, and rightfully so. She clearly is all about class and elegance and doing the right thing. In all fairness, she may be the one woman who singlehandedly changes the course of pantyhose’s fate in global fashion circles.
Yes, 2011 was a great year for pantyhose. We’ve made up so much ground, and I am looking forward to more of the same in 2012 and beyond.
Wishing you and yours a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!
Readers of this blog have come to know and appreciate my column, Credit ‘wear’ Credit is Due, in which I heap loads of praise on some worthy celebrities for their devotion to wearing pantyhose.
And we’ve had some great ones, haven’t we? Ann Curry, Fran Drescher, The T-Mobile Girl (Carly Foulkes), Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez, Kate Middleton, and Carrie Ann Inaba (for doing a complete 180 and finally wearing pantyhose on every episode of the game show “1 vs. 100,” which she hosted recently.)
Minus that headline, I’ve also glorified some other devoted pantyhose wearers, such as Anne Hathaway, Julianna Margulies, Milla Jovovich, Meredith Vieira, Katy Perry, Parker Posey, Linda Fiorentino, Kim Basinger, Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock. And there are many, many more who deserve such recognition.
Then, a couple of months ago, I introduced a whole different column. This one shines the spotlight on those celebs who completely miss the boat, just don’t get it, lack the finest sense of true femininity, and always miss opportunites to show some real professionalism, elegance or class.
So, for only the second time, I am handing out the coveted (NOT) ActSensuous Grizzly Award.
And this time, the hardware goes to one Stacy London.
That’s right, the co-host of TV’s “What Not to Wear,” a reality makeover show, in which London and her wonder boy sidekick, Clinton Kelly, use their superior brains and good taste (yes, I’m being sarcastic here) to completely trash the wardrobe of their guests and reinvent them in their own fashionwise images.
And, as many normal people have written in comments to online postings by or about these two “fashion experts,” they often do it in a completely arrogant and insulting manner.
As readers of this blog know, I despise so-called “fashion experts” who make universal rules and tell everyone what they can and cannot wear, as if their likes or dislikes about fashion trends are somehow more appropriate and obviously more sound than what anyone else on the planet thinks. It’s “fashion experts” like these two who’ve come up with the “rule” that one can never wear pantyhose with open-toe high heel dress shoes — a rule that, incidentally, is almost never followed by anyone with half a brain, and one that is standing up less and less to scrutiny everywhere.
So Stacy London, possibly the queen of all “fashion experts,” gets the second Grizzly Award (after Sarah Jessica Parker for obvious reasons)? But it’s not just because she’s a “fashion expert.” Rather, it’s because she’s on record as stating that she likes bare legs for all seasons. That, and she’s using her credentials and influence to further her own agenda — a personal dislike and distaste for pantyhose as a fashion accessory.
Here’s are a couple of excerpts from a 2008 segment of TODAY.com where London is a style contributor, answering readers’ questions about fashion:
Q: I was watching “What Not to Wear” when you appeared horrified by the idea of wearing hose. I know it’s not really the style now to wear nylons, but I have terrible spider veins on my white legs. What do I do now that skirts are knee-length and those veins are so obvious? Any advice?
A: First of all, the only hose I really hate are the semi-sheer ones in suntan or black. They look dated and remind me of a time when women would walk to work in their suits, those hose, white sweat socks and white leather aerobic sneakers. Blech. Might as well throw in a whole can of hairspray, too. Too ’80s! Stay away from anything that has a mid-range denier number that indicates the sheerness of the hose (10 is very sheer, 30 is semi-sheer and 50 is opaque).
I recommend a good self-tanner for the pale-leg situation, but also realize that won’t help with spider veins. Look for opaque tights and try them in a subtle color, like a burgundy or deep purple, when wearing a neutral-color knee-length skirt or suit. They will hide your legs and add a visual punch to your outfits!
Q: You indicated that pantyhose were no longer proper attire. You stated that in summer, go with bare legs and in winter, wear tights. I enjoy wearing pantyhose and want to know if I am old-fashioned if I wear them?
A: I did not mean to indicate in my last segment that pantyhose are no longer appropriate attire. My feeling is that those that are considered day sheer or mid-denier don’t look modern, but a bit dated. The denier number on hose shows you how sheer the stocking will be. The lower the number, the more sheer they are.
For example, a denier of 10 will be supersheer. These are great for evening, especially with a little shine or a back seam, as they look natural and simply enhance the legs for evening. A denier of 30, is what I have most trouble with; it’s neither here nor there. It’s not sheer. It’s not opaque. You know? It’s like a relationship: Either you’re in or you’re out. This wishy-washy sheerness dates an outfit to the ’70s or ’80s, when this style was most popular. But when you get to a denier of 50 or above, and the stocking is clearly opaque, I think this becomes a more modern and relevant look. A shiny tight like this can be used for day or evening.
OK, first, the country’s leading fashion expert comes out and blatantly tells women to go with bare legs in the summer? She also tells women to use self-tanner for pale legs? Seriously? Second, she recommends opague tights in a subtle color, “like burgundy or deep purple?” (Those colors are subtle?)
Hey, look, I respect others’ opinions, and the fact that London is considered a fashion expert, if that’s her best advice about leg coverings, then too bad for her and anyone who listens to her. While I completely disagree with London about everything she says about pantyhose, I’ve got no problem with her actually saying it. She’s entitled to say what she wants. Where I have a problem with her is on her point about denier ratings.
She specifically says that it’s pantyhose with a denier rating of 30 that she finds objectionable. She even cautions “If they come in an egg, you don’t want to wear them,” referring to the L’Eggs brand (owned by Hanes) of the 1970s and 80s. But she’s wrong. L’Eggs and their competitors (the most widely-known one being No Nonsense) made their pantyhose in a 20 denier rating.
As she said, denier rating determines how sheer the nylon fabric is. The lower the number, the more sheer the pantyhose. When I created ActSensuous in 2001, I looked into the 10 denier rating she referred to, and yes, they are super sheer, but the fabric is coarse and not very natural looking. They are not soft or silky at all, and while there may be a market for them, it’s not a very big one. You almost never see anyone wearing pantyhose like these. And, yes, denier ratings as high as 50 are available, but they are tights that are thick and, in my view, not suitable in some venues, such as a formal dinner engagement, nor for proper business attire.
No, my problem with London’s remarks are about the pantyhose of the 1970s and 80s being so awful. I loved pantyhose in the 70s and 80s, and I’ve never known of a 30 denier rating. But what do I know? The pantyhose of those decades were made almost entirely of 100 percent nylon fabric in a 20 denier, which is exactly why I made ActSensuous in a 20 denier. I think those are precisely the kind of pantyhose that true pantyhose lovers love. Those are the style, the look and the feel that we all miss. Maybe London meant to say a 20 denier rating is what is so awful.
By the way, ActSensuous has hundreds and hundreds of customers from all over the world, literally from Atlanta to Bangkok, from California to Denmark, from New York to New Zealand. We’re big in England, France and Australia. We have customers from China, Korea and Japan. I don’t think there is a country in which we don’t have customers. And they all tell us ActSensuous are the softest, sheerest and sexiest pantyhose they’ve worn. But, really, what do we all know? We’re not “fashion experts” like Stacy London and Boy Wonder.
In doing the research for this post, I ran across this forum on the Internet:
To the question: “What’s your honest opinion of Stacy London and Clinton Kelly of What Not to Wear? Do you like this Show …?, most answers were negative, but even some of the supportive ones came out against their obvious negative slant against pantyhose.
I particularly love this response:
… Why is (Clinton Kelly) telling me what all men find sexually alluring on women?
A lot of gay men know a lot about fashion, but to get such advice on that subject, I would like a 2nd & 3rd & straight opinion.
… These two complete followers of Brittany and Sarah Jessica Parker have agreed that they do not like pantyhose, (fine), however, they dictate to their audience and columns that, “No one likes them.” “Everyone looks bad in them.” Etc…
I think my legs are my best feature and every boyfriend I have ever had have all confessed to me, after that shyness period passed, that they were all ‘ga ga’ for me (girls in general) when wearing sheer silky pantyhose (hence my nickname, given to me by my current boyfriend sitting kind of to the side here & still a little shy) and tights, but mostly the sheer nude/tan/beige hues.
Lastly, the show was/is not only incorrect on so many levels, but caters to and from their mindset only. Falling into this show would have you most likely ending up as a follower. Be a trendsetter, not a follower. Be stylish. Be sexy. Be yourself. Not what they insist on.
Let me tell you something: this LindsaySheers gets it. Good for her.
You know, I want to like Stacy London.
She’s a beautiful and charismatic woman, she’s very intelligent, and she has accomplished great things in her life.
Before co-hosting “What Not to Wear,” she started her career as an editor at Vogue magazine, then, became a stylist for celebrities and designers, then, a fashion contributor on many Today show formats.
She is or has been a spokeswoman for several brands, including Revlon, Pantene, Woolite and Dr. Scholl’s® For Her Comfort Insoles.
Along with Kelly, she’s written a book, “Dress Your Best: The Complete Guide to Finding the Style That’s Right for Your Body.”
I actually felt a little bad when I named Sarah Jessica Parker the first recipient of the ActSensuous Grizzly Awards because, when researching her for the piece, I actually found several pictures of her wearing pantyhose. That’s right, the one celeb universally “credited” with creating the bare legs culture with her “Sex and the City” TV series and movies, actually wears pantyhose fairly regularly. It was more symbolic that SJP had to get the first Grizzly Award.
But I don’t have any reluctance about bestowing upon Stacy London the second Grizzly Award. I can’t find a single photo of her wearing pantyhose. Granted, some of the pics of her on the Internet are of low resolution and too small a file to really be able to tell if she’s wearing or not. But based on everything London says and stands for, I am pretty sure she is not wearing pantyhose in any of the pics on the Internet. Certainly, she comes across as if she hates pantyhose, thinks they are old-fashioned and irrelevant today.
I liked “What Not to Wear” when it debuted in 2002.
I watched quite a few episodes and I remember longing to see London wearing pantyhose with those beautiful dresses and high heels she always wore. But it never happened.
I thought that was such a missed opportunity on her part — a chance for her to show professionalism, class and elegance in the role she held. But, to her, it wasn’t a missed opportunity at all.
This lady just doesn’t believe in pantyhose … period.
Like LindsaySheers, I too was upset and offended when I saw a video of London and Boy Wonder “explaining how to wear pantyhose,” especially when they admitted the video was made only because they were getting so many inquiries from consumers about why they never talked about pantyhose. Then, when they said that nobody looks good in suntan pantyhose and no one should ever wear them, I realized that there is probably no one more deserving of the second ActSensuous Grizzly Award than Stacy London.
Here’s that video:
So, what do you think? Could there be a more worthy recipient of the ActSensuous Grizzly Awards than Stacy London?
It seems that the current-but-maybe-not-for-much-longer “bear” legs movement came upon us all of a sudden. One day things were normal and good, and then suddenly pantyhose were public enemy No. 1 (among women that is).
It’s been a long decade-plus of the awful bear legs look, but gradually, in ever-increasing numbers, pantyhose are gaining their legs again. Have you noticed?
They’re in movies and TV shows more and more. They’re in TV commercials all the time. They’re even on fashion runways, and that’s a real good thing. They’re in magazines, too. And now, they’re also the subject on more and more women’s minds as one can see on Internet discussion boards, where there’s always that question: “Are pantyhose back?” To which some answer: “I never realized pantyhose were out.” Love that.
Yes, it’s looking more and more like pantyhose are starting to cling to more willing wearers each day. With that in mind, here are some recent pantyhose happenings that are getting my attention:
Celebs deserve our thanks
Probably the biggest reason that pantyhose are once again in mainstream consciousness is the vast and ever-growing number of Hollywood actresses, entertainers and pop stars wearing during their performances.
In only my second ever blog post (June 2009) titled “Calling out Professional Entertainers,” I blasted celebrities for instigating and perpetuating the bare legs movement (back then, I hadn’t come up with the idea of referring to it as “bear” legs.) My, how far we’ve come. I am so proud of the many veteran celebs who never left, or have now come back to pantyhose. And that includes Cameron Diaz, who until recently, I thought would be the next recipient of my new column, “The Grizzly Awards.”
But I’m even prouder of the young, up-and-coming celebs who are outright pantyhose goddesses. Yes, we’ve still got a long way to go, but I think it would be difficult to name more than a few young celebs today who are just complete bear leggers — ones you’ll NEVER see wearing pantyhose.
I think we have to recognize and thank the likes of Jessica Alba, Sandra Bullock, Anne Hathaway, Juliana Margulies, Milla Jovovich, Nicole Kidman, Kate Middleton, Sofia Vergara, Paris Hilton, Zooey Deschanel, and of course, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce’ and Selena Gomez.
There are hundreds of others who deserve credit, but this is a good start.
Since nothing influences fashion in everyday life like what we see our favorite celebs wearing, I think we’re in a very good time and place right now with all the professional performers out there donning pantyhose.
Waitin’ all day for Sunday night
Hey, Jack, it’s a fact … the outfits Faith Hill is wearing this year during the intro theme to Sunday Night Football are soooooooo much better.
Last year, she wore that way-too-short black dress with some funky, chunky (OK, ugly) shoes, and Casper-white bear legs that (I have to say it) looked awful. Sorry, Faith.
This year, she wears mid-calf length pants, but with pumps and pantyhose.
As I’ve written before, doesn’t she (whomever I’m dissing at the time) see herself on TV later and say “What was I thinking?” or “Why didn’t someone tell me ?”
Well, one of those things must have happened in Faith’s case. Thank you.
Another win for pantyhose.
One of the hosts on NFL Network on DirecTV, Kara Henderson, was doing the bear legs thing during interviews with fellow analysts and guest coaches and players. Uh, Kara, “Come on, man!” (Yeah, I know — that’s a bit featured on ESPN prior to Monday Night Football — but I couldn’t resist.)
Again, she must have seen herself on TV or someone told her how awful her legs looked. Now, she wears pantyhose and looks sooooo much better. Good call.
Remember, I am writing just random thoughts here. Suzy Kolber is one NFL analyst, host, sideline reporter I always liked. She is very professional. She used to wear pantyhose with nice suits and heels all the time. Lately, I’ve seen her wearing pants more than anything. I hope she doesn’t allow herself to be influenced by the vast majority of other female NFL types and stop wearing skirts and pantyhose and heels.
Why always black pantyhose?
Seems when we see a celeb wearing, especially one who typically doesn’t, it’s always black pantyhose. I mean sheer black pantyhose are nice, and certainly better than bear legs, but somtimes, I think women think it’s all they can wear.
There used to be a line of thinking that was one should always match one’s pantyhose to the color of one’s dress.
And we all know how popular the LBD (little black dress) is. I always thought that thinking was lame.
OK, you’re wearing a black dress, but you know … your face, your neck, your arms, your hands … they’re not black (unless you’re Minnie Mouse). Why do you think your legs should be black just because you’re wearing a black dress?
Nude and Suntan are such a nice, refreshing look these days when it seems that all we ever see is black.
Those awful ‘fashion experts’
If you’ve read this blog, you know how I detest those people called fashion experts. They probably gave themselves that title. Since my post, “Why not pantyhose and open-toe high heels?” remains the most popular on this blog, you know how hard I’ve been on these monkeys for making that “rule” that you can NEVER wear pantyhose with dress sandals.
It still amazes me that everyday people seek out the advice of these fashion gurus. It’s not like these guys’ opinions have any more value than your own good judgment, but I still see on Internet threads cases where someone wants to know if it’s OK to wear pantyhose with dress sandals. Recently, and I love this, I’ve been seeing the fashion police cave a little on this issue. The last piece of advice I read was that it’s OK as long as the hose is sheer at the toe (well, duh), or (and get this), if it’s thick, opaque hose. Well, OK, I s’pose that’s better than their previous blanket “NO WAY” answers.
I love countering their idiot opinions with the fact that some of today’s most popular Hollywood stars (again, the number 1 influencers of fashion) always wear pantyhose with open-toe high heels. It’s like these so-called fashion experts think they know better than everyone else, yet, the whole world is doing exactly what they tell us not to do.
Thanks but no thanks
The other day, I stumbled across a video made by the stars of the TV show “What Not to Wear.” I used to watch that show, but after you’ve seen 5,000 episodes, you start to realize it’s pretty much the same story over and over again. In any case, I never saw the show’s beautiful star, Stacy London, wearing pantyhose, and I hate missed opportunities (meaning a beautiful fashion expert who has great legs, but sadly, doesn’t enhance them with sheer pantyhose). And now, she’s making TV commercials and still not wearing. Guess she is squarely behind the bear legs movement.
So I was surprised to find a video she and her partner, Clinton Kelly, made, titled “How to wear pantyhose.” Wait, they are talking about wearing pantyhose? Well, I certainly wanted to hear what they had to say on the subject.
Turns out their advice was pretty much that most women don’t want to wear pantyhose, but if you do, “That’s cool.” Kelly advised that if you’re going to wear pantyhose, make it look deliberate; not a half a shade or two off your skin tone, but rather make it appear that you’re intentionally wearing hose, such as opaque tights. He’s standing next to a mannequin wearing a dark blue dress, with black tights and black shoes.
London talks about denier ratings (the sheerness or thickness of the fabric). Her mannequin is wearing a black dress. London recommends a very low denier (sheer) black pantyhose with a back seam to make it more elegant.
Meanwhile, London appears to be wearing some kind of dark blue, almost purple, dress that just didn’t do anything to flatter her lovely figure.
And worse, she is wearing some really ugly shoes. Ironically, it looks as if she is wearing pantyhose (must be my eyes are bad) and if she is wearing, they sure look like suntan to me.
Here’s the link. See what you think:
On one hand, I’m glad they talked about pantyhose, but I am disappointed that they admitted to covering the topic only because they had been getting questions from many viewers about why they don’t talk about pantyhose. London’s and Kelly’s remarks have a bit of a negative tone about pantyhose, but they didn’t do any real damage. But look at the face that London makes as she’s signing off. Her expression seems embarrassed, almost apologetic, for even mentioning pantyhose.
What really bothers me is that they put down suntan. I can tell you suntan is still far-and-away the most popular pantyhose color among devoted wearers. I love suntan.
Fashion experts … whadaya gonna do?
While all the haters out there continue to rear their ugly heads, pantyhose keep raising their pretty legs, and finally, it seems that more and more people are taking notice.
In one of my first blog posts ever, Calling out Professional Entertainers (June 2009), I blamed Hollywood celebrities for their too-casual look. Far too many of them still show a lack of professionalism and class in the way they present themselves in the public eye, but there has been a huge improvement.
And in my Credit ‘Wear’ Credit is Due series, I’ve recognized and appreciated many actresses, entertainers and other celebs for never buying in to the ugly bare legs trend and always wearing pantyhose. I’ve done the same for many of today’s new crop of young performers who deserve credit for embracing pantyhose and setting a good example for young women everywhere.
Hey, I realize I can’t save the world. There is a yin and a yang in life. One cannot know soft if one has never experienced hard. One cannot know cold if one has never experienced hot. I could go on. I won’t. (You’re welcome).
OK, one more: One cannot know beautiful if one has never seen ugly.
Which brings me to this:
Now, let me just say that I know nothing about Miley Cyrus. I am sure she’s a nice enough girl. I realize she’s young, and maybe not all that bright yet. But she is a professional entertainer. She has to take some responsibility for her actions.
Maybe she just grew up (not sure those are the right words) during a time when none of her gal pals owned a pair of pantyhose or even knew what pantyhose are. Maybe they don’t have pantyhose in the parts from which she hay-als. But that didn’t stop Daisy Dukes, did it?
Could it be that she wanted to achy breaky her daddy’s heart with that outfit? It seems to me that someone associated with the production from which this picture was taken should have stepped in and told her how awful she looked. Couldn’t someone have showed her a picture of herself before she went on stage?
Again, I don’t mean to single out Miley Cyrus. There are many entertainers just like her. But it does go to show just how professional, classy and glamorous so many other professional performers are.
We might expect those good qualities from entertainers like Jennifer Lopez and Madonna, who emerged on the entertainment scene during the 1980s – perhaps, the greatest pantyhose era in history.
To me, it’s a very pleasant surprise and a real sign of hope for some semblance of class in today’s society when young entertainers, such as Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Beyonce’ and others choose to wear pantyhose on stage (and often in public in general.)
Last month, Lady Gaga performed an impromptu concert for the audience before she appeared as a guest on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Apparently, while setting up the stage, some fans began chanting for her to perform a couple of numbers. And so she did.
Not sure what to make of her outfit, but I’m not complaining. I didn’t see that episode, so I have no idea what she wore on the set for the part that was televised, but before taping began, she rocked that audience with “Born This Way” and “Judas.”
Maybe Lady Gaga is a bit over the top, but I love how she always brings attention to pantyhose. And while she has been a positive influence on her contemporaries when it comes to wearing pantyhose, this outfit makes me think that Lady Gaga wants to be the undisputed Goddess of Pantyhose on stage.
Knowing that practically every man with a pulse loves women in pantyhose, I have to believe that when girls see how much their boyfriends go ga-ga for Lady Gaga, the girls would develop a different perception of pantyhose than the one the haters out there want everyone to have.
Of course, you know how much I’ve gushed about the likes of Nicole Kidman, Milla Jovovich, Julianna Margulies, Anne Hathaway and others who are devoted pantyhose wearers. But the one celeb who has garnered the most positive attention for pantyhose the world over remains Kate Middleton.
On Monday, a positive story about pantyhose appeared in the Detroit Free Press by Associated Press writer Samantha Critchell:
Thank you to one of this blog’s readers, peter_a, for pointing this out to me.
And earlier this month, Melanie Coulson, a columnist for the Ottawa Citizen wrote a positive piece: http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/08/10/thank-you-kate-for-bringing-back-pantyhose/
My thanks to another of this blog’s readers, Carl, for telling me about this article, and that Lady Gaga performance, too.
Yes, it appears that pantyhose haters will always exist. It just amazes me that they have singled out the most beautiful, feminine and classy thing a woman can wear as the object of their hatred.
And, yes, there will always exit those who simply make bad wardrobe choices, those who just don’t “get it” and a few who will blindly jump on the bandwagon of any fashion trend.
But all that makes it even more pleasant and heartwarming when we see the many celebs and everyday women out there who are continuing to wear pantyhose. And isn’t it nice to see pantyhose snagging some positive press again?
Is what’s considered fashionable a case of art imitating life, or life imitating art? Everyone knows that fashion was influenced more by the golden era of Hollywood than anything else, and I am sure it’s every bit the case today.
Life Imitating Art
By now you know that Sarah Jessica Parker is “credited” with creating the “bare legs movement” with her “Sex and the City” TV show and movies. When everyday women saw the show’s high-profile characters strutting around New York City – fashion capital of the world – all dressed up minus the pantyhose, they completely lost their minds, adopted the idea, and from the mid-1990s to present, pantyhose practically disappeared as a fashion staple.
Art Imitating Life
As the bare legs culture grew in popularity among non-celebrities, naturally, more and more actresses and entertainers jumped on the bandwagon, too. It was almost as if celebs felt obligated to sport the new fashion look since they are expected to be the trendsetters in such things, and it had become clear that anti-pantyhose fever already was firmly established among the general population.
Coming full circle
While pantyhose were disappearing in society, even in the workplace, the entertainment industry’s role in it was evolving from instigator in creating the bare legs culture, to one of jumping onto the bandwagon, to now becoming the one place where pantyhose most likely are seen and appreciated today.
There’s one thing you can depend on about fashion – no fad lasts very long. What’s “in” eventually becomes what’s “not in,” and you can be sure that as soon as what’s not in takes off and everyone gets enough mileage out of it, ultimately, it will become what’s in again.
Today, entertainers appear to be split on the wearing of pantyhose. Thankfully, some truly professional stars, such as Geena Davis, Julianna Margulies, Linda Fiorentino, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Fran Drescher, Holly Hunter, Goldie Hawn, Shelley Long, Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman to name a few, never bought into the bare legs thing and, as long as the role or the scene they played didn’t preclude it, they always wore pantyhose. And there are some bright new stars today who are contributing to bringing pantyhose back into popularity, among them the likes of Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, and for the most part, Katie Holmes, Kate Moss, Megan Fox, Kate Beckinsale, Jessica Alba, Milla Jovovich and Olivia Munn.
Pantyhose on display
Already this year, stars wearing pantyhose has been a frequent scene in many TV programs, movies and entertainment venues.
I have to give props to Paula Abdul, who always wears pantyhose as host of her new show, “Live to Dance,” and always wears when she makes appearances on the late night talk shows. To me, that shows that she is professional and classy. Good for you, Paula.
So, it seems that the best we can hope for these days is this pantyhose love-hate relationship in the entertainment industry. Last week, I saw Gwyneth Paltrow on Jimmy Fallon. She wore a short dress and very sheer nude pantyhose. Sadly though, lovely little Sandra Oh appeared on Jimmy Kimmel, wearing a slacks outfit.
Those who have seen Sandra only on “Grey’s Anatomy,” might be surprised to learn that she has gorgeous legs (and feet), and she’s shown them off in pantyhose in several movies. Sadly, she mostly does the bare legs thing during red carpet or publicity events. I just don’t get that. She doesn’t seem like the follow-what-everyone-else-is-doing type to me. She is one celeb I really wish would glam it up a lot more because she can do it so well, and it would show a totally different side of her. Oh well. I still love her.
Also last week, I couldn’t wait to see Maggie Q on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno just to see if I would win the bet I made with myself that she would wear a short dress and high heels but no pantyhose.
Sometimes, I just hate being right. Then again, with someone like Maggie Q and her perfect Asian skin, whether she’s wearing in this picture or not can be difficult to tell.
She really looked good on Leno. Here’s a small pic I found of Maggie on the Internet. Is she wearing? Could be. I doubt it, but I want to believe that she is.
This weekend, I re-watched the movie, “Get Smart,” with Steve Carell, who did a great job as Maxwell Smart.
When the movie first came out a few years ago, and when I saw it again on Saturday, I was so disappointed in Anne Hathaway for not wearing pantyhose in her role as Agent 99. (She “Missed it by THAT much!”)
UPDATE (See the Reader Comments on this post. Looks like I was wrong about Anne Hathaway. One reader provides compelling evidence that, at least in one scene, Agent 99 indeed was wearing. “Sorry about that, Chief!”)
And speaking of spy shows, another celeb I am disappointed in is Piper Perabo, who stars in TV’s “Covert Affairs.” She’s really lovely, but she did the bare legs thing on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson last week. Sorry, I just think that shows a lack of class, and I had a different image of her than that.
I have written before about my disappointment in the way she often doesn’t wear pantyhose with her otherwise professional attire on “Covert Affairs,” despite that advertising spots almost always show her in pantyhose.
Again, I don’t know who’s at fault – Perabo or the show’s costume designer – for Perabo’s character not wearing pantyhose on “Covert Affairs.” I wonder how much say Perabo has about the matter, and which way she’d lean if she did have a say.
It’s interesting, as one reader commented, that advertisers don’t miss the opportunity to show off Perabo in pantyhose during promotions for the show.
Check out this site: http://www.emrahyucel.com/tr/entry/category/all/company/5/customer/0/page/8
and scroll down to the bottom of the page. You’re looking for page 16.
On page 16, the “Covert Affairs” set is about halfway down the page. These are some beautiful publicity photos, and hopefully, a sign of the outfits to come on this show.
And it’s not just on TV and in movies that pantyhose are finding their legs again. One of this blog’s devoted followers, Peter A., pointed out earlier this month that everywhere he looked, he saw the professional models and visitors wearing pantyhose during the Jan. 18 Detroit Auto Show. I love that. Thanks for the photo, Pete.
Hollywood has always blessed us with glamorous actresses who set the beauty standards of the day.
From the late 1960s through the mid-1990s, nylons were as much a staple in Hollywood as makeup. So while it wasn’t unusual (until now) to see a TV or movie star wearing nylons on screen, a few actresses actually distinquished themselves as what I am calling Pantyhose Goddesses.
Julie Newmar appeared on Broadway in the 1950s, and had many starring roles in television and movies during the 1960s, possibly none more auspicious than her role as Catwoman on the Batman TV series.
At 5’11, 135 pounds and with 37-inch legs, it wasn’t hard to notice Newmar, but she was more than just a Hollywood glam-girl. She did one thing that will link her to pantyhose forever – she designed her own, actually winning a patent for her design in the mid 1970s. She called the pantyhose “Nudemar” and marketed them during the 70s and 80s.
She said she invented them out of necessity:
“I have two drawers of pantyhose, but I don’t like what they do for my backside.
“It’s a simple improvement. I just gathered the back seam, but it gives a woman the firm fanny of a 12-year-old.”
I like the fact that she had two drawers full of pantyhose.
In the 1970s, Catherine Bach played the character, Daisy Duke on the Dukes of Hazzard TV series, wearing short, tight cut-off jean shorts, which would become known as “Daisy Dukes.” Apparently, network censors believed that the cut-offs were so short, that the the producers could get them on air only if Bach wore sheer-to-waist pantyhose with them, to ensure that the shorts didn’t reveal more of her than intended.
Bach certainly created a pantyhose identity for herself, if not an entire fashion trend.
But, perhaps, no actress aligned herself with pantyhose more than Joyce DeWitt during the 1970s TV series, Three’s Company. On its Web site, Central New York Promotions states:
“Being an avid pantyhose wearer, DeWitt is famous for refusing to do any scenes bare-legged. When shooting Three’s Company (1977), she always wore either pantyhose or tights, and refused to work bare-legged. Though this caused conflict between her and the show’s producers, it endeared her to hosiery manufacturers, and she became the spokeswoman for L’eggs pantyhose in the late 70s.”
That kind of professionalism, commitment to femininity and just plain good taste is very rare today. I liked Joyce DeWitt’s style back then, but having learned her story, I’m even more impressed with her now.
I wonder: What other actresses could or should have become Pantyhose Goddesses back in the day?
Again, during the 70s, 80, and 90s, pantyhose were the standard of class, elegance and glamour, so actresses wearing them on screen wasn’t at all unusual. Still, some stars just stood out from the crowd, and in the process, pantyhose gained cult-level status.
During the 80s and 90s, I have to say that my favorite stars who could have earned the title of Pantyhose Goddess were Kim Basinger, Michelle Pfeiffer, Linda Fiorentino and Geena Davis.
And then, there was Markie Post, Goldie Hawn, Shelly Long and Christina Applegate — all truly lovely and classy pantyhose babes.
Honorable mention could go to Jennifer Tilly, who was almost always seen in pantyhose and looked awesome in them; Fran Drescher, who really did align herself with pantyhose; and one Parker Posey, who actually was known as “Miss Pantyhose.” This was never more evident than in the role she played as a vampire in the third installment of Wesley Snipes’ Trinity trilogy.
Today more than ever, we need a Pantyhose Goddess in Hollywood – someone whose beauty, class and grace is so awe-inspiring that, when she permanently aligns herself with the wearing of pantyhose, it would make for an irresistable combination that would once again propel pantyhose to cult-type status.
She’s always been so classy, and, until I saw The Proposal, I didn’t think I’d ever see her not wearing pantyhose. She kinda let me down on this one, especially because her role in this movie was a corporate executive.
Even though she is beautiful and classy, I don’t really see Sandra in the Pantyhose Goddess role. I think deep down, she’s sees herself as kind of a tomboy.
I believe she’ll usually choose to wear pantyhose for the proper occasion, but I don’t think it would be for any reason other than just good sense.
I don’t know if she’s been around long enough, is sought-after enough or revered enough, but I would love to see Nicole take this title.
Lately, I never see her on screen not wearing pantyhose, and it would be hard to find someone who looks better in them than her.
I’ve always liked Nicole, and I think she’s got the class and grace to be the one.
The more I see her, the more I love her. She is beautiful, but she’s also powerful and edgy. And she’s here and now.
I love her in the Resident Evil movies, and I’ve seen her in many public appearances where she almost always is wearing pantyhose. Not only that, but she also is a professional model who more often than not is shot in sheer pantyhose.
Milla is classy and cool, and I think she deserves to be considered a true Pantyhose Goddess.
Catherine always carries herself with class and grace, and I never see her not wearing pantyhose.
There’s just something very captivating about her.
She has the beauty and the charisma to be the next Pantyhose Goddess, but also, she’s got the credibility and the relevance that it would take.
That’s right, Anna, the head alien visitor on the TV series, V.
If an evil overgrown lizard who’s out to take over Earth can look that incredible in pantyhose (and she is never not wearing them on the show) she gets my vote for Hollywood Pantyhose Goddess.
Update 2013: OK, I had based that opinion when this was written in 2010 only on what I saw of her in V, having never heard of her before that show. Since then, I’ve seen her on many a late night talk show where she wears beautiful dresses and heels, but no pantyhose … ever! And I’ve seen many photos of her during publicity appearances, also mostly “bear”-legged.
Just goes to show that at the end of the day, you really can’t trust an alien visitor trying to take over the world. Too bad because Baccarin certainly looks amazing in pantyhose. Yet, “The truth is out there:” She doesn’t look good at all “bear”-legged.
She might already have this title, and that would suit me just fine. As The Good Wife, she always dresses professionally and looks great in pantyhose. Better still, she most-often makes public appearances and guest spots on late night talk shows dressed the same way.
It really bothers me when the big stars, even when they wear pantyhose for their roles on screen, think they’re somehow obligated to follow the “trend” and go bare-legged out in public, especially, if it’s a talk show with a younger host who caters to a younger audience.
But that’s not the case with Julianna. She always dresses beautifully and does the right thing by wearing pantyhose. Maybe she should be the Hollywood Pantyhose Goddess. Maybe she already is.
Update 2013: All that might have been true when this was written in 2010, but it seems Margulies has allowed herself to be brainwashed by the masses, as I’ve seen her “bear”-legged a few times during public appearances. That seems to indicate that it’s the professionalism, class and good taste strictly of the costume designer and producers of The Good Wife and NOT Margulies herself who deserves the credit for her wearing pantyhose on the show.
Meredith already is a Pantyhose Goddess. Here’s why: Not only does she always wear pantyhose on TV shows and in public appearances, she actually has gone on record saying she “likes wearing pantyhose,” even admitting that she doesn’t wear anything underneath.
Meredith definitely deserves consideration for Pantyhose Goddess. The question is: Is she relevant enough today?
Obviously, Anne Hathaway and Zooey Deschanel deserve consideration for Hollywood Pantyhose Goddess. Of the two, Zooey is the more devoted and consistent wearer for all occasion and venues. I didn’t feature Anne and Zooey here only because I think they’re too obvious, and both already might be Hollywood Pantyhose Goddesses.
Finally, I’ve got to say that I like what I see from Megan Fox, Kate Moss, Jessica Alba and Kate Beckinsale. And, thankfully, there are many other young actresses out there who seem to understand the allure of pantyhose. Are they ready to become Hollywood’s next Pantyhose Goddesses? Perhaps.
OK, who’d I leave out? I know you have your favorites, and I’d like to hear who they are and what you have to say about them.